Cloudify?

[senfi]

Just for discussion: is there any interest in "putting this into the cloud"? eg Google App Engine is free within some quotas. So, despite privacy concerns, this could be a way. We would have to talk about "quant types", how to store and how to display them. But a simple App-Engine-API can be done using Python. A simple Website could display stats and could have a "+1 coffee" button etc.

[AndiH]

You mean, making a service out of it?
Like www.quanti.fi/AndiH/, with an backend and stuff? That's cool, but, like, really a big thing…

Or what do you mean with »putting it into the cloud«.

By the way: My stuff currently runs on a server we can also use for testing. It's Hosteurope-hosted.

[senfi]

Yes, a little service. My main intention was "i need a +1 coffee button somewhere", otherwise i would not track data. Maybe i have to take a closer look at your backend first... then we can get back to this topic.

[AndiH]

My backend. Haha. ;)
There's a table in a database. That's my backend… You know, the physicist's approach ;).

You want a service to create more manual Quants. I see. That's something different I thought you meant initially. But I like it!

All this scales. Let's make a startup.

[jk]

Sounds good. I'm craving for a good and especially comprehensive dashboard like the one from Fitbit, just with all the data I can gather. Most of the services try to bring politics to the topic and don't let me track and import the things I already track via a good collection of sensors.

But here's the catch: I don't to python yet. And I'm not quite sure if I want to invest in learning it.

[AndiH]

Ok, @jk, you talk about the stuff I initially thought of. This, and what @senfi said in his last comment, can be the same but don't necessarily have to.

And concerning the programming language involved: Everything, which is currently displayed on quantified.andreasherten.de is anyway done by means of PHP. So for a dashboard, only taking care of display Quants (with, maybe, a little configuration) that might be fully sufficient…

Essentially, as a first step, this would be ›your personal quantified.andreasherten.de‹ with more privacy, more verbose output and more history.

[jk]

I'm quite versatile in PHP and also with building REST web services. From an architectural point of view defining an interface (i.e. the web service) we will decouple a great deal of the language things. Backend can be (but don't have to be) PHP – or something like the java-based play framework and all the clients can be written in whatever the author want it to be. So browser extensions in a variety of languages is no problem.

[AndiH]

Sounds cool, @jk. (Though, remember, I'm not that easy with all those web stuff… But that's probably more my problem.)

Do you have, like, right now tickling fingers? If so: What about a short Skype/G+ call this weekend? If not: How to continue?

[jk]

I need a bit more time to start. I'm in the middle of automating my apartment 😄 But I'll just look into it and try to make your existing code running on my side to gain some overview.

For the web stuff: I'm also not a front end guy anymore. Backend, mobile and architectural things, that's how I roll for the moment 😄

[senfi]

Count me in! We should take about this in the next weeks.

[AndiH]

Now, that's to diverging answers… Damn ;).
Who has time on Sunday at 14:00?

@jk: Automating my apartment is also one of my big dreams. But it's like a whole other project… What are your plans? What do you do? Can you tell me? Maybe not in this comment chain, though.

[senfi]

The later the better... (or around 13:00). Doodle?

[jk]

I'm available – I don't have any fixed appointments for the weekend, but I can't promise that I'll did the installation of your repo code till then.

@AndiH Jupp, I can do that. I do have some sensors and actors for the lighting and heating in place, but they aren't so well integrated yet. But I stumbled accross openHAB yesterday and I already own a not used raspberry pi 😃

[AndiH]

Ok, here's your Doodle thingy: http://www.doodle.com/idstw8tdgwk4xfmg

@jk / @senfi: You don't need to have my stuff installed for Sunday. I just plan to talk a bit about possible future projects and who does what.

[Nepomuk]

I'm in, of course. Twitterer, unite! To the moon!

[Nepomuk]

Another idea which just came to my mind: develop an app along with the cloud service (or at least a nice mobile version at the start) and track data from your smartphone. Like the +1 coffee button.