jade

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Jade | Alexander's Garden

An infinite canvas where you can pour out ideas freely and think joyfully

https://dragonman225.js.org/jade.html

[ycEw18913]

It would be nice to have thinner gap between cards since it interrupts the thinking flow.
Love the work by the way 🤓👋👍

[dragonman225]

Make sense. Thinner gap conveys tighter relationship between snapped blocks.

[weisk]

Hello! I gotta say, out of the million things out there that try to solve the knowledge management / note-taking issue, I'm loving the simplicity that Jade offers! I would love to start using this, however, it doesn't feel safe to use seriously yet, since it looks like it's a 'temporary play with me web tool' ?

Do you, by any chance, have plans on open sourcing it? Or commercializing it? I would love to use this.

By the way, "Did You Know That"... The popular HTML templating engine Pug, used to be called Jade before, but the creator was forced to change the name, because he received legal threats from copyright owners(1).
[1]: pugjs/pug#2184

[dragonman225]

Hello! I gotta say, out of the million things out there that try to solve the knowledge management / note-taking issue, I'm loving the simplicity that Jade offers! I would love to start using this, however, it doesn't feel safe to use seriously yet, since it looks like it's a 'temporary play with me web tool' ?

Yes, the Web version is more of a demo of the spatial canvas, not intended for serious usage. I decided that for Jade to be really useful it has to be a desktop app (or system software in the end), since a desktop app allows better integration with everything, for example, pulling in PDFs, audio clips, video clips on the computer, embedding Web pages without iframe limitations, making use of system apps like mpv, yt-dlp, ipfs, and calling Twitter APIs to get a list of your favorite Tweets, etc. I'm working on packaging it as an Electron app with a more robust database (SQLite) and a basic onboarding flow, as a first step. Hopefully will have an alpha release in one or two months!

BTW, what do you plan to use Jade for? I would love to know more about your use cases / workflows since I'm studying what are some good ways to use the spatial canvas and streamline the processes more with Jade.

Do you, by any chance, have plans on open sourcing it? Or commercializing it? I would love to use this.

Yeah, I plan to start as an open-source project, for several reasons:

• I'm working on it part-time.
• I think it encourages more open-ended discussions, which is good in the beginning of a new project.
• We would put so many private things in a knowledge management app, and many of us are worrying about the "privacy policies" of existing solutions, I want to bring a solution that we could trust in code, instead of trusting the company / people behind it.

By the way, "Did You Know That"... The popular HTML templating engine Pug, used to be called Jade before, but the creator was forced to change the name, because he received legal threats from copyright owners(1). [1]: pugjs/pug#2184

Oh, I didn't know about this, thank you for pointing out!
Actually, I have been thinking about re-branding for a while, since "Jade" is a common word that has other strong meanings. I'm thinking about inventing a new word by composing partials of two common words, or call it xxxOS, since it would be like an OS for information. But no final decision yet, if you have any idea I would love to hear!

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We can also chat privately with email if you want!

[dpetrouk]

After noticing buttons in Jade I imagine how it can even be used for websites. Maybe for such websites that can be easily complemented by users, or reused by users i.e. as a local article with note-taking space around it.

[dragonman225]

Something similar to this idea: A Meta-Layer for Notes?

[rgvelasco]

I am not really a programmer who knows how to create these kind of software and apps, but I have a lot of use cases for tools that @dragonman225 have created so far. People like him should be more recognized because his open-sourced projects really help people like me who would like to get things done in probably less or no fees at all with the tools that he is creating.

This one, jade in particular, is one of his creations that I am looking forward to use continuously. Hopefully, a better approach to this tool will be released soon. Cheers!

[rhaynes74]

Good day! An impressive looking tool. Any updates on an ETA for a beta version?

[catalystK]

how to join, any discord group, so-oo much intrested in this

[dragonman225]

@JEEMail thanks for being interested! I haven't set up a Discord group for Jade, since it's more of a personal project. Are there any topics you would like to discuss if there's a group?

By the way, if you just want to follow the updates of Jade, you might want to follow my Twitter account https://twitter.com/dragonman225, I'll post things about Jade and future projects.

[jaspimeran]

Hi
Any hope (time schedule) for this "I decided that for Jade to be really useful it has to be a desktop app" dream to become reality?

[WaytrueDeng]

wow, jade is amazing! your masterpieces really help me a lot! I notice that you have mentioned you would like to opensource jade, which is really appreciated. may I ask how's the work going? thanks again

[dragonman225]

@jaspimeran What operating system are you using? Let me see if I can make one for you.

[jaspimeran]

Hi
i use windows 11
Best Regard
Gaspar Zsolt

[dragonman225]

@WaytrueDeng Thanks for your appreciation! I'm glad that Jade helps you. May I ask what type of task you are doing with Jade?

As for open source, since I don't have time and money to work on Jade full-time, I'm most worried about future maintenance and development that are needed to keep Jade a good software worth building. I want to avoid open-sourcing something that becomes obsolete quickly. That's why I haven't open-sourced it. Would you like to share how open source would help you or what would you like to do with the code? e.g. ensure privacy / audit security, add personalized features, customize UI, etc?