General SW Dev Process Community - Meeting Minutes #407
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Time: Agenda: Warnings stopping doc build Participants: Meeting Minutes: |
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Time: Agenda: General Traceability Concept, #343 Participants: Meeting Minutes: |
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Time: Agenda: Participants: Meeting Minutes: Release Management Ticket #313 may have to be taken over by other person, to be discussed on next Process Community Meeting Alignment Eclipse Safety Process / Trustable SW / S-CORE / … Alex gave Feedback from AUTOSAR workshop, outcomes: #809 Verification Process Tickets: https://github.com/eclipse-score/score/pulls?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Apr+label%3Acommunity%3Atesting |
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Mar-25, 9-10 o'clock Participants: Agenda:
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Apr-08, 2pm-3pm o'clock Participants: Agenda: |
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Apr-15, 9-10 o'clock Participants: Agenda: Quality Management, #835 Meeting Minutes: Discussed topics for the up-coming workshop at BMW on 23.04/24.04.2025 Discussed latest proposal: link implementation to architecture Discussed Quality Management, Follow-Up Planned for 15.04.2025, 14:15-15:15, @PandaeDo will invite |
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Apr-29, 9-10 o'clock Participants: Agenda: Meeting Minutes: Create Ticket to create TSF in Sphinx-Needs, and link to S-CORE processes initially to find gaps and vice versa, @masc2023 As example see here: https://gitlab.com/CodethinkLabs/safety-monitor/safety-monitor/-/tree/main/trustable/safety-monitor-expectations?ref_type=heads Release Management shall be released as next. |
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May-06, 9-10 o'clock Participants: Agenda: Meeting Minutes: Planning Update for Next Milestone done, Quality Management Review Meeting, 07.05.2025, 9-10, @aschemmel-tech , @masc2023 , @PandaeDo will invite Feedback Pilot Projects: (EPIC Process Pilots #760) @aschemmel-tech presented some review findings, improvement tickets to be created, topics: Renaming of Concept Description, e.g. to Process Description, improvement of Change Management Request, more explicit description about responsibilities for different Requests, Rework of Contribution, remove word "Contribution Request", Discussed about FMEA/DFA, separate Meeting will be setup, considering from the begin Safety/Security |
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May-20, 9-10 o'clock Participants: Agenda: Decide to delete now process folder in doc to avoid inconsistencies, not merged PRs, which have input for process folder in doc should be separated
Meeting Minutes: Max will try a bugfix for #1103 proposed by Jochen today Alexander will prepare the PR to delete the score/docs/process folder if Volker can build locally Decision for eclipse-score/process_description#13 : Max will disable the check for all foldernames below process_description/process Question on the "Platform DFA" - what do we link it to:
Alexander presented his work on the folder templates |
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May-27, 9-10 o'clock Participants: Agenda:
Meeting Minutes: Audit Findings discussed, Tickets assigned Template folder will be updated with document header by @aschemmel-tech, Process Requirements implementation, @aschemmel-tech will discuss with @MaximilianSoerenPollak , @AlexanderLanin |
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June-03, 9-10 o'clock Participants: Agenda: Meeting Minutes: Tool Requirements will be created, Prototype as Doc-as-code, How to link Tool Requirements: Link will be done from Tool-Repo to the Process_Description, Where to locate the Tool Verification Report is not clear yet, must be defined -Bazel check "link the same issue" means that we have to generate an issue for every wp. Do we want this? NO -Platform DFA question from last meeting Safety Analysis and Quality Management are now pushed to process_description, ready-for-review Reviewer for Pilot Persistency needed: @kroehnd Folder Template is missing "Implementation Template", @aschemmel-tech will updated it, done, with eclipse-score/process_description#29 |
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June-10, 9-10 o'clock Participants: @PandaeDo Agenda: Meeting Minutes: |
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June-17, 9-10 o'clock Participants: @PandaeDo Agenda: Meeting Minutes: |
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June-24, 9-10 o'clock Participants: Agenda:
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July-01, 9-10 o'clock Participants: Agenda: Discuss Bugfix Template: eclipse-score/communication#25 Meeting Minutes: @hoe-jo proposed problem, improvement templates, will be used as basis for score Component Folder in Score discussed (Component Register), audience would propose to follow up with that Implementation Checklist IMPL_01_02 possible removal/update discussed, shall be removed @aschemmel-tech |
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Nov-25, 9:00-10:00 o'clock Participants: @masc2023 Agenda: https://github.com/orgs/eclipse-score/discussions/516#discussioncomment-15039732 New Meeting series for Security Related Topics, compare here https://github.com/orgs/eclipse-score/discussions/108 eclipse-score/process_description#404 Discussion on SW Modules (see also eclipse-score/process_description#235): are they implementing one feature and use/depend on some other SW Modules to do this? Do we want to "release" single features? And how can we make the SW Modules self-sustained? Possible solution to present.
Safety Management process updates topics: Need to assign eclipse-score/process_description#242 for input from processes community. Nobody volunteerd in last meeting. Architecture process audit findings review: eclipse-score/process_description#82 -> Additional meeting between @RolandJentschETAS and @aschemmel-tech to discuss the open points (done -> see task comment for result). MoM: Check https://github.com/orgs/eclipse-score/discussions/516#discussioncomment-15039732 for the planned topics for the BETA release Discussed Safety Management topics. Decision: Safety Manager shall be elected in mediocratic way, Dsitributor Role can be removed Discussion SW Modules: |
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As discussed WIP document for score_integration_view (the svg image can be downloaded and edited with drawio tool) |
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Nov-27, 9:30-10:30 o'clock Participants: accidentally in a parallel Zoom Meeting: -> dear colleagues, use the new Zoom link for the Thursdays meetings! Agenda: EPICS: Check and Update Planning for Process Community, close, delay or keep EPICS: MoM: Audit preparation: presenters: should be according to responsibles in ML2 Epics as in PRC - Process Development Community (view) - exception is tool mgt: this is "done" by @alekseyborisyukvalidas but presented by @masc2023
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Dec-02, 9:00-10:00 o'clock New discussion stream: see https://github.com/orgs/eclipse-score/discussions/2234#discussioncomment-15105437 |
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Dez-04, 9:30-10:30 o'clock Participants: Agenda: Addressing again using of templates for Feature Requests, #2288
MoM: Discussed introduction of new need-type: component, see above, Decision: Introduce component as new need-type, @PandaeDo presented his observations, Team discussion -> Proposal: Discussed Versioned Links, No objective from the community to introduce the feature, we will try it out after introduction Discussed process/tool requirements to check for tracing to "invalid" work products, no consents yet, recover in the the meeting, Safety Team, @aschemmel-tech Other topics |
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Dez-11, 9:30-10:30 o'clock Participants: Agenda:
Agree on Scope of this Working Stream: Release v1.4.0, has impact on score, compare #2323 Do we need a separate checklist for stakeholder requirements, compare eclipse-score/process_description#438 MoM: Short review of Planning activities Shift Recap definition Module/Feature discussion @arsibo , @RolandJentschETAS to Tuesday meeting, 16.12 Discussed eclipse-score/process_description#438, Decision: Create new checklist for stakeholder requirements, platform folder, etc. @RolandJentschETAS -> Done and merged into process description Introduction of new participants 18.12.2025, will be the last meeting for this year |
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Dez-18, 9:30-10:30 o'clockParticipants:@masc2023 Agenda: General Q&A for S-CORE Open PRs: MoM: Last Process Community Meeting for the Year 2025, will continue on Thursday, 08.01.2026 Discussed eclipse-score/process_description#436, Update PR to assign all lifecycle models, harmonize other work product tags, Fix Head Bugger |
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Jan-08, 9:30-10:30 o'clockParticipants:@aschemmel-tech Agenda: Happy New Year, will continue on Thursday, 08.01.2026 Open PRs: MoM: PMP, Project Management Plan Presentation/Discussion, 22.01.2026, @anmittag |
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Jan-22, 9:30-10:30 o'clockParticipants:@aschemmel-tech Agenda: Discuss planning, and other topics from Metamodel Updates, how to continue? Open PRs: eclipse-score/docs-as-code#351 Start with Quality Manager Role as already done with Safety Manager Role? detail design as UML is only required for ASLI D, therefore I want to remove or tag it for ASIL D. real operation design by UML is to complicated -> remove ? MoM: eclipse-score/process_description#514 Discussed selection for Quality Manager Roles, agreed, @PandaeDo, @pahmann , @masc2023 , Procedure same as election for Safety Managers, @masc2023 will start the procedure Discussed cyclic dependency of process_description, Doc-as-code, @masc2023 , @RolandJentschETAS, will organize a meeting to discuss solution Discussed planning and assigned owners for the EPICS |
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Jan-29, 9:30-10:30 o'clockParticipants:@aschemmel-tech Agenda: Decision Record: #2499 (See https://eclipse-score.github.io/score/pr-2499/design_decisions/DR-007-infra.html) Present bazel link to workproducts / metamodel - eclipse-score/tooling#95 - first presentation by @hoe-jo Initial Tool List: #2497 (See https://eclipse-score.github.io/score/pr-2497/score_tools/eclipse_score_tools_safety_evaluation_list.html) PMP updates: #2481 Start Implementing Quality Management Activities MoM: Proposed new Meta Model: @ramceb , @aschemmel-tech , please comment here @aschemmel-tech: Comment on the metamodel change presented above: 1. The "Dependable Element" and "Delivery Container" should be linked "implicit" as these are not sphinx-needs elements 2. Currently I would not rename the "Module View" to "Dependable Element View" as we may not need this in the future and it also should rather be implicitly linked to the "Delivery Container". Shortly discussed, Discussed #2499, from Process Community Point of you Option 2 is fine, @RolandJentschETAS , @AlexanderLanin please continue with effort estimation |
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Feb-05, 9:30-10:30 o'clockParticipants:@masc2023 Agenda:Release Planning for v0.6, General Sprint, 2 iterations, each 2 weeks, 2 weeks for release team, no feature hubs allowed eclipse-score/process_description#524, Update for Dependable Element, https://github.com/orgs/eclipse-score/discussions/407#discussioncomment-15605348 #2499 Initial Tool List: #2497 (See https://eclipse-score.github.io/score/pr-2497/score_tools/eclipse_score_tools_safety_evaluation_list.html) PMP updates: #2481 Start Implementing Quality Management Activities Crosscheck Security versus Safety Activities: eclipse-score/process_description#542 - @aschemmel-tech reviewed What support from the "outside" we would wish for in the process community? (Could be addressed in "ECAVA Meeting") MoM:Change to Dependable Element PMP updates: #2481, still open to review Discussed: Discussed, @aschemmel-tech will join Security Meeting, 06.02.2026, 11-12 Discussed: Discussed: Discussed: |
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Feb-11, 9:30-10:30 o'clockParticipants:@masc2023 Agenda:Discuss relationship between CODEOWNER FILE, and Process Workflows, RASIC, agree on common understanding and identify gaps, which may lead to updates for Process Description, @AlexanderLanin Update on: Update on: OS integration topic, present: #2515 Symbol report verification report is updated and waiting for checks if findings are solved #2544 Start Implementing Quality Management Activities MoM:Discussed Symbol report verification report is updated and waiting for checks if findings are solved #2544, @pawelrutkaq presented the current status, @aschemmel-tech , @pahmann please review again and under the assumption, if additional measures are implemented with these would be result in HIGH confidence? Discussed relationship between CODEOWNER FILE, and Process Workflows, RASIC, agree on common understanding and identify gaps, which may lead to updates for Process Description, Propose to add additional attributes to mark repos as safety/security relevant, update in https://github.com/eclipse-score, @FScholPer checks how to automate the updates of the repo overview PMP will add a procedure to elect new maintainers (committer which shall be added to the codeowner file), @anmittag, decision will be done by the existing committers, if new, may all committers are possible? For Safety/Security/Quality relevant repos, at least one Safety/Security/Quality Manager (committer) must be added @AlexanderLanin, posted https://gist.github.com/AlexanderLanin/332d7b258d9b23c09408fa6ad0df5630, anybody can have a look and give feedback, postFromAlexander.zip Example from Communication Discussed Dependable Element again, currently used as Module, but may there are places, which may not correct, as Delivery Container is meant, @aschemmel-tech will check and update Discussed: #2560, @anmittag will post an invite for the next meeting of all TLs, FTs, CTs, to join the meeting to discuss in a big round about the DR |
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Feb-19, 9:30-10:30 o'clockParticipants:@masc2023 Agenda:Agenda: When to start implementation, also for DR to break cyclic dependency between doc-as-code and to remove templates? Recap Recap Update on: eclipse-score/process_description#542 eclipse-score/process_description#574 Start Implementing Quality Management Activities MoM:@aschemmel-tech presented, #2346, mutually agreement, after DR update, official approvement can be done, Follow-up with planning for implementation combined with the template movement after approvement. @aschemmel-tech please check eclipse-score/.github#36 Discussed, @RolandJentschETAS, @aschemmel-tech comments to add explanation of what means relevant, may in general a explanation of all columns must be added, and there should be an argument, when "NO" is selected for relevance Symbol report verification report is updated and waiting for checks if findings are solved #2544, @aschemmel-tech requests updates to conclude, @alekseyborisyukvalidas can support #2604 discussed, open for comments Discussed, please review, so we can merge it soon: @pahmann ask to give comments for the up-coming S-CORE presentation at the Community Days at Bonn, 24.02.2026 Discussed:
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Feb-26, 9:30-10:30 o'clockParticipants:@PandaeDo Agenda:
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Mar-05, 9:30-10:30 o'clockParticipants:Agenda:
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Time:
Feb-18, 9-10 o'clock
Agenda:
Check participants
Align on Agenda for today
Planning - are we confident for Audit slot 3
Unique ID #180 - exception for standard requirements (question from Markus Schu) - no
Do we want to have safety/security attribute for roles? And also others like workflows and workproducts? See #329 - no, can be removed from roles, also only optional "security" attribute for stakeholder requirements.
Process description template (define what is in "concept", "getting-started" ...?
Other discussions from open PRs (e.g. #399)
Participants:
@aschemmel-tech
@hoe-jo
@kroehnd_mbg
@PandaeDo
@pahmann
@markert-r
@PhilipPartsch
Meeting Minutes:
Planning:
Present Requirement Process: #377 - findings documented in PR
Process description template - not for now to be able to do some improvements on the way, but "Requirement Process" should be used as an example.
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