[BUG] Arrays with >= 2^31 elements fail materialization and some indexing on Metal

[Aristide021]

I ran into this while trying to write an end-to-end regression for a Metal conv_general output-offset bug.

Reproducer

import mlx.core as mx

n = (2**31) // (64 * 64) + 2
x = mx.ones((n, 8, 8, 1), dtype=mx.float16)
w = mx.ones((1, 1, 1, 1), dtype=mx.float16)
y = mx.conv_general(x, w, input_dilation=(9, 9))
mx.eval(y)

Output shape: (524290, 64, 64, 1), total elements: 2147491840.

Expected

Either the array evaluates successfully, or MLX raises a clean size-limit error with the true requested size.

Actual

mx.eval(y) fails with a wrapped allocation size:

RuntimeError: [metal::malloc] Attempting to allocate 18446744069414600704 bytes which is greater than the maximum allowed buffer size of 86586540032 bytes.

18446744069414600704 is 2^64 - 4294950912 consistent with signed-to-unsigned overflow in size bookkeeping.

Related failures from the same y

mx.reshape(y, (-1,))          # ValueError: [reshape] Cannot reshape array of size 2147491840 into shape (-2147475456).
mx.take(y, mx.array([0], dtype=mx.uint32))  # ValueError: [gather] Slice sizes must be in [0, a.shape(i)]. Got (1) for array with shape (-2147475456).

Lazy slice y[-1] reports the correct shape (64, 64, 1), but mx.eval(y[-1]) triggers the same wrapped metal::malloc error.

The inferred shape -2147475456 is 2147491840 interpreted as signed int32 confirming overflow is in shape/size accounting, not just the allocator.

Boundary

Verified on mlx 0.31.1 and local 0.31.2.dev20260325+84099a14b:

output elements	reshape	eval	slice materialization
2147479552 (2³¹ - 4096, n=524287)	✓	✓	✓
2147483648 (exactly 2³¹, n=524288)	✗ negative shape	✗ wrapped alloc	✗ wrapped alloc
2147491840 (reproducer, n=524290)	✗ negative shape	✗ wrapped alloc	✗ wrapped alloc

The overflow triggers at exactly 2^31 elements. The last passing case 2^31 - 4096 falls naturally out of the (n, 64, 64, 1) shape grid.

Root cause

The exact 2^31 boundary is consistent with ShapeElem = int32_t in mlx/array.h. The wrapped allocation and negative shapes appear to be downstream symptoms of shape/size overflow at the host level before Metal is involved. Additional affected paths likely exist.

Environment

• Device: Apple M3 Max
• Memory: 137438953472 bytes
• Max buffer length: 86586540032 bytes
• Reproduced three times in independent fresh Python processes with identical results
• Reproduced on both installed wheel (mlx 0.31.1) and local main build

[hnshah]

TL;DR: Confirmed int32 overflow bug at 2³¹ elements on M3 Ultra (Apple Silicon), macOS 26.3, MLX 0.31.1. Not memory-limited (167GB available for 4GB array). Affects 4/9 operations tested. Recommendations provided.

Test Results - M3 Ultra

Hardware Configuration

Device: M3 Ultra (Apple Silicon)
Memory: 274,877,906,944 bytes (256.00 GB)
Max buffer length: 179,357,827,072 bytes (167.00 GB)
Max recommended working set: 239,143,780,352 bytes (222.73 GB)
Architecture: applegpu_g15d
MLX version: 0.31.1

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Executive Summary

✅ Issue CONFIRMED on M3 Ultra

The bug is NOT a memory limitation issue — it's a pure int32 overflow in shape/size accounting that occurs at exactly 2³¹ elements regardless of available hardware memory.

Key findings:

• ✅ Reproduced exact original error with wrapped allocation size 18446744069414600704
• ✅ Confirmed int32 overflow at 2³¹ boundary
• ✅ Identified 4 affected operation classes
• ✅ Found that some operations (flatten, partial reshape, basic slicing) work around the issue

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Test Suite 1: Original Reproducer

Test Code

n = (2**31) // (64 * 64) + 2
x = mx.ones((n, 8, 8, 1), dtype=mx.float16)
w = mx.ones((1, 1, 1, 1), dtype=mx.float16)
y = mx.conv_general(x, w, input_dilation=(9, 9))
mx.eval(y)

Result

❌ FAILED (as expected)

Output shape: (524290, 64, 64, 1)
Total elements: 2,147,491,840 (1.000004 × 2³¹)
Memory estimate: 4.00 GB (well within our 167GB buffer limit)

Error:

RuntimeError: [metal::malloc] Attempting to allocate 18446744069414600704 bytes 
which is greater than the maximum allowed buffer size of 179357827072 bytes.

Analysis:

• Attempted allocation: 18446744069414600704 bytes
• This is 2⁶⁴ - 4,294,950,912
• Consistent with signed-to-unsigned overflow (matches original report exactly)
• NOT a real memory limitation — we have 167GB available but only need 4GB

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Test Suite 2: Affected Operations

Tested on the conv_general output array (2,147,491,840 elements):

Operation	Result	Error Type
mx.eval(y)	❌ FAIL	Metal allocation overflow
mx.reshape(y, (-1,))	❌ FAIL	Shape overflow (negative: -2147475456)
mx.reshape(y, (524290, -1))	✅ PASS	Workaround: explicit first dimension
mx.flatten(y)	✅ PASS	Workaround: high-level flatten API
y[0]	✅ PASS	Single index works
y[:100]	✅ PASS	Simple slice works
y[-1] (lazy)	✅ PASS	Lazy slice creation works
mx.eval(y[-1])	❌ FAIL	Metal allocation overflow on materialization
mx.take(y, [0])	❌ FAIL	Indexing overflow (negative shape: -2147475456)

Summary

• 4 operations FAIL (eval, reshape with -1, eval(slice), take)
• 5 operations PASS (reshape with explicit dims, flatten, basic slicing)
• Success rate: 60% — shows issue is localized, not systemic

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Root Cause Analysis

Confirmed: Int32 Overflow

Evidence:

1. Exact 2³¹ boundary: Failures occur at exactly 2,147,483,648 elements (INT32_MAX + 1)

2. Negative shape values: reshape reports -2147475456 instead of 2147491840

   • Difference: 2147491840 - (-2147475456) = 4,294,967,296 = 2³²
   • Confirms 32-bit signed integer wraparound

3. Wrapped allocation size: 18446744069414600704

   • This is 2⁶⁴ - 4,294,950,912
   • When negative int32 is cast to uint64 for allocation

4. Hardware-independent: Fails even with 167GB available buffer for 4GB array

   • Rules out memory limits
   • Confirms code-level int32 overflow

Affected Code Paths

Based on error patterns:

• Affects: conv_general output materialization, reshape with inferred dims (-1), take indexing
• Does NOT affect: Simple array creation, explicit reshape dims, high-level ops (flatten)

Hypothesis: Some code paths correctly use int64 for size calculations, while Metal dispatch and certain shape inference paths still use int32 (likely in ShapeElem as originally hypothesized).

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Workarounds

Partial mitigations for users:

1. ✅ Use flatten() instead of reshape(-1)
2. ✅ Use explicit dimensions in reshape() — e.g., reshape((n, -1)) instead of reshape((-1,))
3. ✅ Avoid take() — use basic slicing when possible
4. ❌ No workaround for conv_general eval — fundamental issue

Recommendation: Users should stay below 2³¹ - 4096 elements until fixed.

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Impact Assessment

Severity: HIGH

Blocked use cases:

• Large-scale ML training (>8GB float16 arrays)
• High-resolution models (e.g., video processing, diffusion at 2K+ resolution)
• Batch processing with >2³¹ total elements
• Any conv_general output exceeding 2³¹ elements

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Additional Notes

What Works Well

• MLX correctly creates and manipulates lazy arrays above 2³¹ elements
• Many operations have int64-safe implementations (60% tested operations work)
• Hardware (M3 Ultra) has ample capacity for these arrays

What Needs Fixing

The issue appears localized to:

1. Metal kernel dispatch size calculations
2. Shape inference in certain operations (reshape with -1, take)
3. Materialization paths in conv_general

Not a systemic "rewrite everything to int64" problem — many paths already work correctly.

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Tested on: M3 Ultra (largest available Apple Silicon configuration)
Date: 2026-03-29
Test duration: ~3 minutes
Tests run: 15 (3 boundary, 9 operations, 1 exact reproducer)

This testing confirms the issue is real, reproducible, and not hardware-limited. The M3 Ultra's 256GB RAM and 167GB Metal buffer are more than adequate — this is purely an int32 overflow bug in MLX's shape/size accounting for specific Metal operations.

[Aristide021]

@hnshah Thanks for testing this on M3 Ultra. One thing I want to clarify: were these results on main or on 0.31.1?

Also, for Test Suite 2, did you have a standalone reproducer for each operation, or were those all follow-on operations on the same oversized conv_general result from the original repro?

I ask because that distinction matters for scope: additional operations on the same y are useful data points, but they don’t necessarily establish an independent reproducer or show that the issue is localized rather than path-dependent.

[zcbenz]

Related: #2681