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Meeting minutes for 2025-10-02 TSC meeting
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‎meetings/2025-08-07/minutes.md‎

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# 2025-08-07: TSC Minutes
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## Attendees
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TSC members:
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* [ ] Manuel Barbosa
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* [ ] Hanno Becker
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* [X] Matthias J. Kannwischer
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* [X] Franziskus Kiefer
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* [ ] Jake Massimo
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* [X] Markku-Juhani Saarinen
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* [ ] Tiago Oliveira
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* [ ] Pravek Sharma
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Quorum is not met. Meeting postponed due to lack of attendance.
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* Next meeting: 2025-09-04 13:00 UTC

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# 2025-09-04: TSC Minutes
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## Attendees
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TSC members:
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* [X] Manuel Barbosa
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* [ ] Hanno Becker
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* [X] Matthias J. Kannwischer
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* [ ] Franziskus Kiefer
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* [ ] Jake Massimo
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* [ ] Markku-Juhani Saarinen
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* [X] Tiago Oliveira
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* [ ] Pravek Sharma
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Quorum is not met. Meeting postponed due to lack of attendance.
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* Next meeting: 2025-10-02 13:00 UTC

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# 2025-10-02: TSC Minutes
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## Agenda
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* Welcome
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* PQCP Growth Plan
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* Updates from related communities (PQCA, OQS)
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* Review status of sub projects
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* [mlkem-native](https://github.com/pq-code-package/mlkem-native)
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* [mldsa-native](https://github.com/pq-code-package/mldsa-native)
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* [mlkem-libjade](https://github.com/pq-code-package/mlkem-libjade)
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* [mlkem-rust-libcrux](https://github.com/pq-code-package/mlkem-rust-libcrux)
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* [slhdsa-c](https://github.com/pq-code-package/slhdsa-c)
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* Discussion items
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* [Rust libcrux repository re-org](https://github.com/pq-code-package/tsc/issues/181) - Vote on renaming proposal
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* [Project Documentation Standards](https://github.com/pq-code-package/tsc/issues/151)
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* Review of remaining open issues:
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- [Determine any cross-implementation API requirements](https://github.com/pq-code-package/tsc/issues/4)
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- [Adopt a definition of assurance levels](https://github.com/pq-code-package/tsc/issues/3)
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* Any other business
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* Next meeting: 2025-11-06 13:00 UTC
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## Attendees
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TSC members:
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* [ ] Manuel Barbosa
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* [X] Hanno Becker
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* [X] Matthias J. Kannwischer
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* [X] Franziskus Kiefer
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* [ ] Jake Massimo
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* [X] Tiago Oliveira
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* [ ] Pravek Sharma
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* [ ] Markku-Juhani Saarinen
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Other attendees:
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* Hart Montgomery (Linux Foundation, PQCA)
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## Action Items
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- All projects: Consider growth strategies from Hart's presentation and discuss on GitHub or in next meeting
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- Matthias: Create growth plan document for TAC presentation
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- Matthias: Open issues in all project repositories with documentation standards requirements
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- Hanno & Tiago: Review and agree on documentation standards list
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- Hart: Check on PQCA blog post reach/effectiveness metrics
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## Minutes
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* **PQCP Growth Plan**:
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- **LFDT Playbook**: Hart shared [LFDT Growth Playbook](https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1r4wljummNbfwRHxH4zYAenSvNIx2EcpChmMgpa5lazM/edit?usp=sharing)
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- **Focus**: Primary goal for PQCP is awareness and user base growth (not necessarily contributors at this stage)
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- **Growth Strategies Ideas** (presented by Hard, primarily from LFDT playbook):
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- **Blog Posts & Media**:
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- Currently posting on PQCA blog
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- Also consider LFDT, OpenSSF, and CNCF blogs
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- **Meetups**:
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- LFDT offers virtual and in-person meetups (45-min presentations, recordable)
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- How-to guides particularly effective
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- Recommended having beginner-friendly sessions
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- **Public Calls**:
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- Already have public TSC calls on calendar
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- Less intimidating than GitHub for newcomers
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- **Communication Channels**:
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- Discord active with good response times (critical for attracting users)
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- PQCA has LinkedIn and Twitter accounts available
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- **Good First Issues**:
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- Challenging for PQCP due to technical nature of cryptography
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- **Workshops**:
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- Virtual and in-person how-to workshops, recorded for online consumption
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- Consider 6-month cadence with new versions
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- **Mentorships**:
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- PQCP had strong applicant pool
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- Budget available for more mentorships (flexible timing, not just summer)
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- Available globally
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- **Case Studies**:
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- Multiple case studies create critical mass and drive adoption
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- AWS Crypto Library (AWSLC) using mlkem-native - opportunity for case study
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- **Newsletter**:
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- LFDT has newsletter capability
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- Would feature releases, milestones, conferences, workshops
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- PQCP is considering a newsletter
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- **Ecosystem Mapping**:
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- Who is using PQCP already?
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- Already documenting consumers in README files
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- **Collaboration Opportunities**:
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- OpenSSF - post-quantum conversation upcoming
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- Post-quantum Kubernetes
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- CNCF could be interesting partner
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- **Action**: Each project to think about growth strategies, discuss on GitHub or next meeting, create document for TAC
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* **Updates from related communities**:
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- **PQCA**:
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- LinkedIn and Twitter accounts active
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- Blog posts being published
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- Planning paper repository
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- Mentorship programs available
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- **OQS**: No representative attended
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* **Sub-project updates**:
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- **mlkem-native** (Hanno Becker):
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- Starting AVX2 HOL-Light proof development (progress expected over next month)
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- Two new backend contributions:
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- RISC-V 64 backend from Markku (under review, expected to merge this month)
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- ppc64 backend from IBM (first review done, needs work, confident it will merge)
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- Total backend count will reach 4
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- **mldsa-native** (Matthias Kannwischer):
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- Exceeded performance of AArch64 MLDSA implementation in PQClean (met alpha release performance bar)
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- AVX2 work ongoing - small gap vs Dilithium team implementation for signing, expect to close in 2 weeks
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- First integration into LibOQS completed (not merged yet but works, identified all needed changes)
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- **Alpha release expected in 4-6 weeks**
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- **mlkem-libjade** (Tiago Oliveira):
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- Full-time engineer working on project until December, focused on CI
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- Focusing on ML-KEM 1024 completeness
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- CI checks include: safety, performance, and proofs
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- **Target: Release by end of December**
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- Planning blog post about accomplishments
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- Implementation correctness proofs take 2.5 hours with 8 cores (goal: optimize to <10 minutes)
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- Matthias offered CI assistance based on his experience
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- **mlkem-rust-libcrux** (Franziskus Kiefer):
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- Common PQCP APIs merged into ML-KEM
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- **Release planned within next 1-2 weeks** with common APIs
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- Feature flag enables C APIs for easy drop-in replacement
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- Once renaming complete, will add MLDSA to repository
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- MLDSA code exists, most proofs done, some cleanup remaining
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- **slhdsa-c**: No updates
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* **Technical discussions**:
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- **Rust libcrux repository re-org** (https://github.com/pq-code-package/tsc/issues/181):
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- Resolved
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- **Project Documentation Standards** (https://github.com/pq-code-package/tsc/issues/151):
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- Existing list of agreed-upon documentation standards shared
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- Action plan:
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1. Hanno and Tiago to review standards list
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2. All agree to standards
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3. Matthias opens issues in all project repositories
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4. Projects implement standards and close issues
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5. Finally close old documentation standards issue
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- **Cross-implementation API requirements** (https://github.com/pq-code-package/tsc/issues/4):
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- **Assurance levels** (https://github.com/pq-code-package/tsc/issues/3):
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* **Other business**:
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- Meeting time discussion: Tiago and Manuel have teaching duties on Thursdays going forward
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- May need to discuss new meeting time in future
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* **Next meeting: 2025-11-06 13:00 UTC**

‎meetings/index.md‎

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# Minutes and agenda
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* 2025-10-02 : [agenda/minutes](2025-10-02/minutes.md)
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* 2025-09-04 : [agenda/minutes](2025-09-04/minutes.md)
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* 2025-08-07 : [agenda/minutes](2025-08-07/minutes.md)
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* 2025-07-03 : [agenda/minutes](2025-07-03/minutes.md)
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* 2025-06-05 : [agenda/minutes](2025-06-05/minutes.md)
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* 2025-05-22 : [agenda/minutes](2025-05-22/minutes.md) (combined minutes/agenda)

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