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| ## Earning Maker Fees | ||
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| As mentioned above, you can use the [Earn][earn] tab to earn maker fees | ||
| yourself.[^fn-home-mining] Simply choose an offer type, select how many fees you would like to earn, and press "Start Earning!" | ||
| yourself. Simply choose an offer type, select how many fees you would like to earn, and press "Start Earning!" | ||
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| Make sure to check the [orderbook][orderbook] to compare your offer with current | ||
| market rates. If your offer isn't competetive, nobody will take you up on it and | ||
| you will earn zero sats. | ||
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| [orderbook]: orderbook.md | ||
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| [^fn-home-mining]: You can also mine yourself to earn mining fees, but that's outside of the scope of Jam. We refer the curious reader to [econoalchemist's home mining guide](https://archive.ph/TLIay) instead. | ||
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| [:octicons-arrow-right-24: FAQ: How much can I earn?][faq-earn] | ||
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| [:octicons-arrow-right-24: Orderbook][orderbook] | ||
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| [faq-earn]: /FAQ/#how-much-can-i-earn | ||
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| ## Real life vs. Theory | ||
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| The Market Makers put up their coins in a hot wallet to be offered for liquidity, which means they face the following inconveniences: | ||
| - they are exposed to the risk of getting their coins stolen | ||
| - they incur an opportunity cost because they could be using these bitcoins to do something else with them. This is further amplified if additional coins are locked in a [Fidelity Bond][Fidelity Bond] | ||
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| It only seems fair that they get paid for all those inconvenience. | ||
| So how come the profits are minuscule? | ||
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| With the market dynamics described above, even since the early days, its been observed that makers make very little profit from offering liquidity. | ||
| This does not mean the market is "broken" it just reflects the reality of the situation. | ||
| There is much more supply than demand for CoinJoins. | ||
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| This whole thing is a market and it does what markets do well, price in all the relevant information/risks/costs. | ||
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| Another fact to consider is that the Bitcoin network itself has a cost to use - Bitcoin transaction fees. | ||
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| Even though most of the times fees seem to be very low, when constructing a CoinJoin the transaction gets big(each input/outputs adds extra data to the transaction). | ||
| Because of this factor, CoinJoins will start up starting with a pretty big baseline fee which is taken by the miners, so not that much left for the makers. | ||
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| We can summaries the trade-off between a maker and a taker like so: | ||
| - Makers: get kinda-free long term fairly good mixing | ||
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There was a problem hiding this comment. Choose a reason for hiding this commentThe reason will be displayed to describe this comment to others. Learn more. I'd remove slang terms like "kinda" |
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| - Takers: non-free short term better mixing | ||
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| As a taker, you get to pick the exact amounts you want to mix, and as such you will not be left with any [Doxxic Change][Doxxic Change]. | ||
| Plus, you get to pick who you mix with, so you know the makers, not the other way around, giving a slight privacy advantage. | ||
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| Worth clarifying that the quality of a CoinJoin is the same for a maker or take, the small advantages/disadvantages are peripheral and have to do with what happens after the CoinJoin. | ||
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| [Doxxic Change]: /glossary/#doxxic-change | ||
| [Fidelity Bond]: /glossary/#fidelity-bond | ||
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| ## Fee Conversion | ||
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| All fees are denominated in [sats][sats]. Use one of the tools below to convert them to fiat: | ||
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