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@wilzbach wilzbach commented Feb 8, 2018

(This seems to be a controversial topic)

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Let's ask the experts:
https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/430160/singular-posessive-ending-with-ss-before-another-word-starting-with-s

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n8sh commented Feb 8, 2018

Let's have the discussion here

I think this pull request should go ahead. Technical documentation should not without good reason use spellings that a majority of readers will perceive as errors. Perceived spelling mistakes are distracting and give a document a slipshod appearance regardless of whether they are truly mistakes or are accepted alternative spellings.

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n8sh commented Feb 8, 2018

Since, 1810, forms like James’s (which I will call type A) have generally been more commonly used than forms like James’ (type B), according to my research using the Corpus of Historical American English (COHA).

Is the current year after 1810?

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Found this: http://www.thepunctuationguide.com/apostrophe.html

Nouns that end in an s sound take only an apostrophe when they are followed by sake.

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quickfur commented Feb 8, 2018

Technically, words that end with s take only an apostrophe without another s.

But seriously, this is a ridiculous amount of spat over a minor grammar nitpick. I say we should just reword the entire lousy sentence to read something like "X of Y" instead of "Y's X". E.g., "the environment of the child process" instead of "the child process('s|'|s|whatever) environment". The former is much clearer to read anyway, and sidesteps this entire lousy argument.

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MetaLang commented Feb 8, 2018

Let's not start grammar fights and introduce useless churn into Phobos. I'm not even supportive of changing everything to one consistent style; just leave it as it is.

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wilzbach commented Feb 8, 2018

From the resource @schveiguy posted:

The possessive of a plural noun is formed by adding only an apostrophe when the noun ends in s, and by adding both an apostrophe and s when it ends in a letter other than s.

Maybe we should add this excellent Punctuation Guide to the Phobos part of the DStyle? It would help to avoid such discussions in the future as there is a goto resource we can link to.

Let's not start grammar fights and introduce useless churn into Phobos.

Fair enough.

I'm not even supportive of changing everything to one consistent style; just leave it as it is.

I disagree - a consistent style is important. It leaves an unprofessional touch.

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@wilzbach wilzbach deleted the process-ss branch February 8, 2018 23:14
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